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Guide to fixing that annoying screeching belt (Information technology finally works!) [squeal]

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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
Its been a proficient yr (e'er since i had to replace my engine) that my alternator/ac/powersteering chugalug made that anoying noise that all 2g dsm owners are very familiar with. Its happens when its cold outside and you start the car, it happens when you turn your lights on at night, when you lot utilise your vents in the car and when you do tight turns while parking.

The ii big bug are the tensioner for the atlernator and the commodities that holds the tensioner in place. I sent my motorcar to ii garages and both told me that my pullys have to be aligned and that i would possibly accept to modify most of my pullys (typical for mechanics to make a simple gear up a large event)

How To Gear up Your Belt (Atleast How I Stock-still Mine)
First cheque if the belt is worn out. in virtually cases considering the chugalug has been squeaking for so long, chances are that you lot will need to supercede it. To supplant it, yous volition need to jack up your car and loosen the bolt underneeth the altonator which is holding information technology in place. and so play around with the tensioner on your alternator making certain that your are loosening it and not tightening. with a lot of patients and a fleck of fourth dimension because its so tight and awakward, you will exist able to slip that one-time worn out belt and replace information technology with a bran new one.

Then cheque the commodities that goes from left to correct through the tensioner. One of my issues was that this specific bolt would get loose very often then i purchased a new nut with a nylon linning in information technology so it would forbid it from getting loose once again. It worked out beautifully.

Then compare the tension of your belt to the belt which is to the left of your alternator. Obviousily to adjust the tension for your belt loosen the nut and bolt that hold the tensioner in identify (the one described above that goes from left to correct) and so tighten your tensioner accordingly. I think that this is the trouble with about of these mitsubishi's the altinator tensioner.

Finally im going to let many in on a trivial hole-and-corner that my friend told me. There is no risk in this but just the same do it at your own gamble because i dont desire to be responcible for anyones actions. Accept a wax candle and rub information technology on the inside of your belt gently so that you dont ruin whatever of the groovs. Your soposeto do this while the car is on (while the belt is in move) only because it is then tight i would never advise for anyone to practice this, information technology is really as well dangerous. likewise jack up the car on the drivers side if y'all have a gst or gsx, you lot will notice the same belt underneeth (the i closest to the drivers side tire) and continue to rub your wax candle on information technology to encompass as much surface as possible. Dont exagerate with the candle because yous dont need to put that much just pass it through your chugalug 4 or 5 times max.

Once everything is checked and done properly information technology is almost guaranteed that your car will never sqeak again and trust me information technology is a hudge relief because it was driving me crazzy as it has been to many. I put it through a test last night driving on a pretty cold night with my lights and vents on while parallel parking and to my supprise i didnt hear a single noise from that belt. What a relief!!! i wish all thoes who attemt to finally fix their belts all the luck possible. Hopefully my tips will lead you to success.

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99gst_racer
11,862
one,135
Apr v, 2003
Coloma, Michigan
I want to effort this candle trick sometime this week to see if it works on my roomate's 2G. If it fixes information technology, I'm going to requite to a large e-hug!
  • #3
Captainredeyez
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Feb 22, 2008
Metairie, Louisiana
Fantabulous write-up. I'm going to be changing my belts out next weekend and ima try this. If it works, I'll put you upwards for some REP points.
  • #4
1,041
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April 28, 2008
Centralia, Illinois
Virtually v years agone I had a 89 Beretta GT, 2.8L, 5spd and that motorcar seriously hauled some balls. I started having a problem with the belt squealing no thing what I did. I even replaced the tensioner thinking it was wore out simply it would ever eventually start doing information technology over again. I was at a family unit reunion and talking about the problem when my uncle suggested to take a bar of Dove lather and agree it on the serpentine side and permit the chugalug rub against it to coat the belt. Well this eventually quieted the belt and it didn't squeal later that. Unfortunately hitting water puddles would splash some water upwards on the crank pulley and the belt would get moisture and you lot could tell information technology wasn't getting a grip under acceleration and would be a problem until it dried over again.

Simply good ready.

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  • #5
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
Cheers, I appreciate the prissy replies. If yous demand whatsoever help along the way experience gratuitous to write back. I merely came back from driving my car most 20 mins ago and information technology'due south really such a relief starting up my eclipse with no bug!
  • #6
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ane
Apr 28, 2008
Centralia, Illinois
I but looked and Autozone has a spray that coats the belt and stops the squealing. Information technology's called Belt Dressing.
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
yeah only thats the matter a bar of lather washes off and dissolves with h2o, wax doesnt. I've heard of then many techniques and tricks and ive tried all on my car. This is the first fourth dimension that something actually worked for a while now. ordinarily after 2 or 3 spins around the block no affair what i tried, it gives out.
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99gst_racer
11,862
1,135
Apr 5, 2003
Coloma, Michigan
I just looked and Autozone has a spray that coats the belt and stops the squealing. It's called Belt Dressing.
That stuff is hit-or-miss. It worked for my buddy's Honda, just it doesn't exercise a matter for my 2G or my roomate's 2G.
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  • #9
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
Belt dressing is no good. I've been using it for the past 3 months just to make the machine stop squeeling when i back out of my driveway. literally minuites later information technology begins to fade away and it slowly eats up the safety of your chugalug (very similar to using WD-forty) but nigh importantlty check your tensioner on your alternator and the tension of your belt compared to the one to the right of it.
  • #10
1,041
i
Apr 28, 2008
Centralia, Illinois
It never washed off, it didn't start squealing again while I had the car. It would just lose grip when information technology got wet just it did work as long every bit it was dry out. Go out and spray some water on your belt while it's running with the wax on it and see if it does it also, also if you happen to get oil, or antifreeze on there it will bead up on the belt and you will accept nearly the aforementioned issue I was talking about with the lather/water. Yous'll have to use something similar degreaser to clean it off or it will e'er slip under hard acceleration.
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
Im telling you lot guys its a problem with all the 2g eclipse's and talon's. The alternator tensioner moves by itself over time and screws it all upwardly. you demand to change that nut and bolt that holds the tensioner in identify and fallow up on my guide.
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
And as far every bit the belt slipping, i didnt realize annihilation up untill now. I find that the alternator is more stable when the car is stopped. usually at night i useto find that the lights inside my auto would dim when i would be stoped at a red light. last nighttime i information technology was the way it was soposeto be.
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ane,041
one
Apr 28, 2008
Centralia, Illinois
I got stranded once in the ville without my cell phone. It kind of suck being a white child walking through the ville to a gas station to make a phone call. Not to be racist merely yea... it's not fun in gang banger land.
  • #fifteen
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Jul 12, 2006
Vancouver, Washington
When you tighten the cross bolt on the tensioner bracket information technology tends to pull the head of the tensioner bolt up and nearly off of the finish of the tensioner arm. I always push button downwardly difficult on the head of the tensioner bolt while tightening the cross commodities to prevent that. I take never had a problem with my alternator chugalug loosening upwardly or squealing.

I practise similar the candle wax idea though. The bar of soap trick has been around for a long time only I can see how information technology would cause problems if it gets moisture. And I agree with the others, the chugalug dressing does non work well.

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MidShipCivic
718
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Apr 22, 2005
Orlando, Florida
I don't like these band help fixes it shouldn't accept to exist like this I believe there is more to information technology.
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99gst_racer
11,862
ane,135
April five, 2003
Coloma, Michigan
I don't similar these ring aid fixes it shouldn't accept to be like this I believe there is more to it.
We're open to proposition, if you have a improve idea.

Many of us have tried it all (multiple dampeners, belts, alternators, tensions, etc...).

I'yard not a fan of bandaid fixes, but if a scrap of candle wax ceases that god-awful noise, then I'm grateful. :thumb:

  • #18
Defiant
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Jan 13, 2003
glorious Galt, California
You'll usually find that virtually anything lightly applied to an accessory belt will quiet it down. A good, easy, cheap style to detect out if information technology's a belt making noise is to just allow some h2o drip onto its friction surface. It's also harmless if it turns out that's not the source of the sound. There's a stick lubricant chosen "Door-Ease" which I've e'er used on belts that have needed it.

Be especially careful when messing with a running DSM'south accompaniment side- in that location's not only the universal danger in just beingness effectually bulldoze belts -which will seize with teeth off a finger long before you feel it- but there's the additional threat that if it grabs yous, the lack of clearance will wind upwardly with inescapable mangling. No long sleeves, no jewelry, no picket.

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GsxEcutioner
one,579
3
Sep three, 2007
San Bruno, California
hmm My friend gave me a Stick of Wax like that, thats meant for the belt and 1000 other things, He got it while working at Ford. It works, and yes I put it on while the belts in motility.
-Shane
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  • #20
24
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Sep 23, 2008
Laval, Quebec_Canada
Non for zip only nosotros had a lot of rain this weekend and my belt didnt screech in one case. thankgod i fixed this trouble because i collection most of the time with my lights and defrosters (forepart and rear) on and for all those who have experienced this problem earlier you know how crazzy it can get in the rain with that belt. I am then glad that my problems fixed. I am also not a fan of quick fixes only in this instance no matter what you must utilize this strategy.
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96eclipseawd
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Sep 26, 2008
lake butler, Florida
belt dressing works when you kickoff spray it on then ya back out and its whining again. i deal with the racket every forenoon. ill have 2 give the candle idea a try, naught else has worked nevertheless.
  • #22
talon_swift7834
109
1
May 13, 2008
Monroe, Wisconsin
+ane for the candle idea...i'yard going to try that this weekend....information technology'south almost embarrassing starting your auto when anyone is around because you know it'due south going to squeal.
  • #23
MidShipCivic
718
8
Apr 22, 2005
Orlando, Florida
We're open to suggestion, if y'all accept a amend thought.

I'm non a fan of bandaid fixes, merely if a bit of candle wax ceases that god-awful noise, then I'thou grateful. :thumb:

I know a piddling about power transimission belts ( the term for these belts) serpentines similar a lot of tension.

Mind you my pulleys have 178k on them non a squeak out of the belts ( I just changed them btw non oem poly from accelerate auto).

Well for ane in that location shouldn't be ANY grease clay, rust or oil in serpentine grooves, use a

nord lock washer on the the tension lock cantankerous commodities now... stick a screw driver in between the PS and alt the pry back as hard and you can and lock that tension. Then plow the tension bolt to that indicate where it keeps that specific tension.

I really do mean clean those grooves weather condition information technology be degreaser/carb cleaner and so steel brush/air fitting to blow droppings clean off.

It SHOULD NOT squeak again and for added adhesion I practice it on a new belt I buy stop squeak and let information technology soak on the grooves and install (once once again make sure pulley grooves are Make clean), because what cease squeak volition do is for i it's increase its adhesion and information technology will coat the pulleys to keep mess from causing it to slip simply it needs to be clean prior for it to do that.

Nord lock washers ( www.mcmastercarr.com )

The ps chugalug for 1g are a V belt they need lilliputian tension and they are very efficient I never take a problem with it.

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99gst_racer
11,862
ane,135
Apr v, 2003
Coloma, Michigan
Well, my most contempo venture:

Brand new, out of the box Fluidampnr, make new alternator, and brand new Mitsu belt. I even removed the pulleys from the water pump, and I thoroughly cleaned both of them with carb cleaner. It still squealed. I added tension, and information technology made no deviation. I changed the belt to a Gatorback, and it got better, only the problem is however nowadays.

I oasis't tried this candle pull a fast one on yet, because I haven't driven my car since before this thread was made. But I take every intention to effort information technology the next time I become my motorcar out of the garage.

PS - Also much tension volition habiliment out the bearings in the alternator. As you increase tension, the alternator will nowadays itself as a weak link long earlier the chugalug will.

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MidShipCivic
718
viii
Apr 22, 2005
Orlando, Florida
Do you stick something in there and pry it back ? Yeah its clean just you lot do need tension that'south what drives it, if you accept slipping and your pulleys and belts are okay then you don't have plenty tension it's only that elementary I wouldn't put candle wax on pulleys. You're defeating the purpose.

My tension has been tight for a long fourth dimension and I don't have a worn out alternator, I push my finger on the belt and if I tin push the belt down to make it curve then information technology's enough if I can't that's also much.

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